When he was younger, Winston-Salem resident Donnie Cowart was told no a lot — he was too short or too small for the sports he wanted to try. Then he found running. While it wasn’t love at first site, everything changed after that. And when you hear how fast this guy can run while jumping over hurdles… You’ll be blown away (also, yes, he likes it now). We talked about Donnie’s passion for steeplechase, what it was like to stand on the line for the Olympic Trials, breaking 4 minutes in the mile and how to push through a hard workout or race to a successful finish. He has some excellent advice for you. This is one of my favorite podcasts, so I hope you enjoy!